Draft Minutes Meeting Fossoway and District Community Council
Tuesday 6th August 2013, Carnbo Village Hall
Attending: Sandy Morrison, Trudy Wigman-Duffy, Kevin Borthwick, Alastair Lavery, Rod Patterson, Cllrs M Barnacle, D Cuthbert and J Giacopazzi and 18 Members of the Public (MoP).
Apologies: Sheila Anderson, Angus Cheape and Cllr W Robertson.
Declarations of interest: None.
Community Policing: PC Euan Mitchell reported: No recent crimes in the area, but the public should continue to be alert to rural thefts which have occurred in the wider area of oil, trailers, etc. Speed checks have been carried out in the Powmill 40mph section, but no offences were detected. During school holidays operation MIRFAK (not an acronym) was run to target anti-social behaviour, although this is not a big problem in this area. There has been Police concentration on drunkenness, litter, etc., offences in the countryside during summer months. There is no date fixed yet for the TiTP debrief, but there will be one.
PC Mitchell is the Police Liaison Officer for Ryder Cup 2014. A large (up to 3,000 cars) Park and Ride car park will be created at Balado, on the festival site, with buses to Gleneagles taking a circular route through the Glen and back down the M90. Peak traffic times will be morning and evening, but hopefully outside normal commuting hours. There may be some traffic restrictions to facilitate bus movements, but more detail will be provided later. A Community Forum, similar to that for TiTP will be set up, the first meeting will be Monday 16th September at Kinross Community Campus. Currently there are no plans for the Park and Ride buses to pick up at any other points, since the occupants will have been security screened as they board. MoP notes that this operation will take place during school terms – will the Park and Ride buses conflict? PC Mitchell suggests that there might be an In Service day on the Friday which will be the busiest day of the event thereby reducing the risk. MoP asks if there is a plan for diverting HGVs coming from the North that might cause congestion around, for example, Auchterarder. PC Mitchell assures us there won’t be a problem!
Minutes of the previous meeting: There were no amendments so the minutes were signed off.
Matters arising:
• Glendevon / Rumbling Bridge Hydro Scheme: The CC has previously suggested that there should be a public meeting to discuss any potential community involvement. Hugh Wallace reports that the planning application has been submitted, as well as seeking permissions from SEPA and Scottish and Southern Energy. Discussions have taken place with SEPA to ensure that water levels are maintained satisfactorily – The scheme will not operate when water levels are lower than that designated by SEPA. Alastair asked for clarification about the grid connection – It will be via an underground cable, for its entire length, to a transformer on a power pole near Over Dalkeith Farm. There will be no additional poles required. Alastair also asked about potential noise from the generator being transmitted along the pipe, which has been reported at other sites - This is unlikely to be an issue as the pipeline is almost all buried: Hugh will check on the coverage near the houses. The turbine itself will generate some noise, but the design of the turbine house is intended to suppress this.
MoP then asked several questions: Have all the landowners along the pipeline have given their permission – Yes, this was an early part of the process. What will be the impact on the Millennium Path while the weir is being constructed – A temporary diversion will be put in place. What about trees around power house - Some will need to be felled; however the wood could do with some thinning anyway. Could the power house be sunk into the ground rather than being 5.5 metres high - This is constrained by the flood level of river. Could the outlet pipe come out further down - A conflict with the Scottish Water pipeline prevents this. How will “mining” under A823 be done without risk to all the main services that run along that road, the contractor appointed will be experienced in this type of work so there should be no problem. - No guarantees can be given, but all possible care will be taken, and any problems will be addressed immediately. What are timescales - It’s a six to eight month project, with about a month for the work through Rumbling Bridge.
Cllr Barnacle notes that although we probably all believe that this sort of scheme is a good idea in principle, he has already received five letters of objection to this particular scheme. Cllr Barnacle suggests that a Community Public meeting be held to enable full information to be provided and all questions to be answered. Hugh proposes to hold this meeting on an evening within the next two weeks, with his consultants present to give detailed responses to any questions, and he will ensure that adequate publicity is provided in advance of the meeting.
• Heads Hill Wind Farm – Clarification from Cllr Barnacle that it’s not yet an application, but currently just an initial investigation. Until the planning application is submitted, or the pre-application consultation takes place we won’t have any further details. Alastair notes that other applications have avoided being treated as major applications on the basis that the roads are already in place and the only change of land use is the footings for the turbines. Cllr Barnacle says that the most important thing is to get the PKC planners to create Landscape Designations – Fife Council has already submitted theirs. This CC has previously written to PKC asking for a co-ordinated policy on Wind Farm development and to confirm the advice already given that the existing AGLV criteria will be followed until a new code is developed, consulted on, and implemented by the council. Alastair reports that there was discussion at the Kinross Civic Trust meeting of how cumulative effects of wind turbines should be addressed, but he was told that there is not going to be any specific policy on this.
• Blairingone War Memorial: Cllr Barnacle is having difficulty in agreeing a date with the developer to discuss this – It’s important that this is done before the 2014 Anniversary.
• Crook of Devon Church Car Park: No news yet from the church about funding.
• Signposting Core Paths and Rights of Way: George Harley has still not had the meeting with D Stubbs. MoP reports that George Lawrie is still trying to establish the path in Craigton Wood; however this will obviously require the landowner to agree.
• Travellers’ Site at Crook Moss, Crook of Devon: Still waiting for the application to be resubmitted, it may be discussed in the September DMC meeting. Cllr Barnacle has been trying to a get a meeting with Nick Brian and Peter Marshall to discuss Traveller’s Sites in general. The local resident affected by generator noise has been told that the applicant will have a planning condition that the generators must be baffled and situated in a structure which is also baffled.
• Glenquey Quarry: Application has still not been to the DMC, and will not make the meeting on the 21st.
• Glendevon Pollution Incident: No progress to report.
CC Business:
Kevin reports that the CPKCC has been wound up following its final AGM – Final minutes and arrangements for distribution of any remaining funds are not yet available.
Community Workshops will be held in Powmill and Blairingone to discuss local issues. An initial meeting with the CC will take place on the 10th September to discuss the format for the meetings timing and location. The results will then be publicised to local residents. Cllr Barnacle stresses that previous work done on the local plan must be taken into account during these workshops.
Community Speed Watch: Kevin has been contacted by local reporters in response to a Police statement that this would not be continued. Cllr Robertson has had discussions with the Police and the issue has been re-opened.
PKC Paralegal Department have sent information about proposed changes to speed limits, new footpaths, etc., mostly to implement Green Routes. Kevin notes that the details including maps are available for inspection.
Friends of the Earth have informed this CC that the Fossoway area is one that could be subject to future Fracking developments. PKC do not currently have a policy on these developments.
KCCN: Sandy reports that there has been a proposal to only hold meetings when required, together with an annual meeting – The CC supports this idea.
TiTP: The application for a licence to hold the event in 2014 has been submitted, and a copy is available for inspection. The CC believes that this event is now fairly well managed and hence would not object to the application. Cllr Barnacle notes that no complaints were received this year, which supports this view.
Bus Investment Fund: This has money which could allow development of local transport services, which would be operated by local taxi firms at the same price as a bus fare – Bus passes would be accepted. Muckhart CC has submitted a letter of support; this CC will do the same. Rod notes that there are no Sunday bus services, and asks Cllrs to look into whether this should be provided to create a Community Benefit.
PKC Councillors’ reports:
Cllr D Cuthbert: The Kinrosshire Local Events Organisation proposes to hold a Winter Festival in December.
Constituents reported that there was a problem with Maths and English in both Primary and Secondary Schools. However after research it appears that the problem lies more with the Secondary School. Having met with the Head of Service for Teaching at Secondary Schools and going through statistics it was agreed there is a problem, especially in English, and have proposed a plan be put in place to resolve this issue, and hope it can be addressed successfully.
The new Ryder Cup signs state that “Perthshire Welcomes…” – but don’t mention Kinross – Cllr Cuthbert has asked for this to be rectified.
Cllr Cuthbert is investigating accuracy of Planning Reports, this CC is aware of several examples.
Cllr M Barnacle: A further meeting with Environment Services about verge cutting will be held next week to address their position that there will only be one cut per year, whereas junctions need to be cut more often. There is a proposal to reduce budgets for crossing patrols, which will result in lunch time patrols at Pedestrian Controlled junctions being removed.
Cllr J Giacopazzi: Nothing to add to points already made.
Cllr W Robertson: Not present but reports that we will be notified about Planning Applications that are outwith Perth and Kinrosshire.
Planning:
The CC will object to the Outh Muir wind farm even though it’s outside our area.
Items discussed at meeting:
13/01265/FLL Renewal of planning application (08/00735/FUL) Erection of dwelling house and double garage. Wester Aldie Farm Rumbling Bridge Kinross KY13 0QQ.
Object, on the grounds that the development no longer meets the criteria for the Houses in the Countryside Policy 2012
13/01245/FLL Alterations and extension to dwelling house. Ochil Cottage Carnbo Kinross KY13 0NX. Two storey extension at rear of house.
No Community Council comment
13/01233/FLL Formation of a 500kW run-of-river hydroelectric generating scheme, powerhouse building, access and associated works. Rumbling Bridge Hydro Scheme Rumbling Bridge
Deferred. The CC will make a decision after the public meeting to answer the communities concerns.
13/01287/FLL Erection of a dwelling house, Tigh Darroch Newhall Farm, Solsgirth, Dollar FK14 7NE
No Community Council comment
13/01328/FLL Erection of two wind turbines and associated sub-station, transformer kiosks, hard standing areas and access road, South Kilduff Wind Farm Fossoway
Object, as the cumulative effect of this and other turbines within 3km will not be acceptable in landscape.
Items dealt with by correspondence between last and this meeting:
13/01248/FLL Alterations and extension to dwelling house, Tigeen Main Street Blairingone Dollar FK14 7NU
No Community Council comment
13/01174/FLL Change of use of agricultural shed for the processing and storage of biomass materials (in retrospect), Land at Lambhill Blairingone
Letter of objection submitted to PKC. The CC continue to press our argument that this should be handled as a major application, and has asked PKC how long an applicant can continue operations whilst a lengthy process is taking place. Cllr Barnacle has asked Nick Brian to arrange a meeting at Lambhill, but he responded that the site owner would have to consent. No other response to the request as yet.
13/01136/FLL Erection of a dwelling house. Land at Blashieburn Vicar's Bridge Road Blairingone
No Community Council comment
13/01154/FLL Alterations and extension to dwelling house. Rosetta Cottage Main Street Crook of Devon Kinross KY13 0UR
No Community Council comment
Correspondence: Full list was circulated to the attendees:
Drum Pedestrian Crossing – Audible signal is only on between 7am and 8pm to avoid noise impact to nearby residents – in bright sunshine conditions the lights might not be visible at these times.
The A977 white lining has been carried out in a somewhat shoddy manner, consequently Kevin has complained to Brian Cargill (PKC Roads) who has passed the matter on to Jake Eadie who has not yet replied.
AOCB: TiTP was previously handled by local Police, in future it will be handled by a central department – will this result in local knowledge being lost?
Millennium Pathway – fisherman’s warning signs have been damaged. Cllr Barnacle will investigate.
Dates of future CC meetings were circulated – note that the November meeting will be the first Wednesday so as not to occur on the 5th. Dates previously advertised are now confirmed.
Draft Agenda for Next CC Meeting
• Welcome and Apologies
• Declarations of Interest
• Community Policing
• Minutes of last meeting
• Matters arising:
Rumbling Bridge Hydro Scheme, Blairingone War Memorial
Crook of Devon Church Car Park, Signposting core paths and rights of way, Travellers’ Site Crook Moss
Glenquey Quarry, Glendevon Pollution Incident
• Community Councillors - Meetings Attended
• PKC Councillors’ Reports
• Planning Applications
• Correspondence
• AOCB
Next Meeting: Tuesday 3rd September, 7:30 pm
Fossoway Primary School
All welcome!