Fossoway and District Community Council
Draft Minutes of Meeting at Blairingone Primary School
Tuesday 12th June 2012
1. Attending: S Morrison, A Lavery, S Anderson, K Borthwick, R Paterson, A Cheape, Cllr. M Barnacle, Cllr W Robertson, Cllr D Cuthbert & 14 Members of the Public (MoP).
Apologies: T Duffy-Wigman and Cllr Joe Giacopazzi.
2. Declarations of interest:
There were no declarations of interest.
3. Community Policing: Report received – No Police meetings will be held regarding T-in-the-Park so issues should be raised via this CC and hence to the T-i-t-P forum. MoP noted that most verges had been cut around Carnbo, but not on back roads used by locals to avoid closures. Sandy said that this had already been requested at the recent Forum Meeting. Cllr Robertson says that local farmers have asked for this too, and he has asked for more cutting to be done. Cllr. Barnacle reports that this issue was also raised at Kinross CC where T-i-t-P were present and they said that they were liaising with PKC.
Recent crimes: Motorbike stolen - under enquiry. Speed checks continue to be made on trunk roads.
Summer drink/drug drive campaign in force from 4th – 18th June, tax, etc., checks will also be made.
4. Minutes of the last meeting:
There were no amendments so the minutes were signed off.
5. Lambhill Forestry Development – Colin Peacock (Forestry Commission) reports: Things have been frustratingly slow, but are now on the move. Forestry plan is now in place and planting (by a contractor currently being appointed) is to start this year (hopefully in July.) There are a couple of areas where ground needs some remedial work. Some new (deer) fences will be erected and others removed as planting takes place. Current access is not ideal with machinery in use and unclear legal position – so discussions with Oran and Mr. Snowie taking place to establish new access by acquiring land or getting permission to cross it. Meanwhile gate has been installed for temporary access. MoP asks if access could be made opposite school, but again problems with land ownership. MoP asks about existing willows – They were planted by the previous owner but not subsequently cut at the right time, and not on right soil, so didn’t flourish and have been mostly removed. Colin will return again in October to update this meeting on progress.
6. Matters Arising:
War Memorial, Blairingone – Site meeting with developer 11th June where they have agreed to take over the entire application process to speed it up. Cllr. Barnacle had previously spoken to John McCrone on 8th June who had agreed to support this CC’s application.
Community Speed Watch – Rod reports: This is on-going, but disappointingly the number of offenders is not reducing, including some very excessive speeds. Ultimately some permanent engineering solution will be required. Hope to continue activity until after T-i-t-P. It’s been worthwhile but it needs a large number of trained volunteers. MoP wonders why PKC didn’t install signs that show actual speed. Cllr. Barnacle opines that the reason is likely that they would have been more expensive.
Olympic Flame - The Flame will pass through Crook of Devon from 8.39 am. 13th June. The runner will start in Drum. Police advise that the road will be closed about ten minutes before the torch arrives.
Crook of Devon Car Park – Map now acquired, so application will be submitted this week.
Travellers’ Site, Crook of Devon – Briefing note from PKC Planning (Nick Brian) available: SEPA would object if not on main drains; note says that Scottish Water would connect to Glendevon system, however in fact it would need to connect to Drum system which does not take surface water and was specifically installed to deal with environmental problems at Loch Leven. Cllr. Barnacle reports that Scottish Water has not received an application to connect;
Why was hardstanding created if landowner only intends to keeps horses on land?; Concern over Planning Department receiving pressure about not discriminating which would cause the application to be referred to Scottish Government; There’s no clear policy on locations for traveller sites, so they appear at random. There are already two sites at Gairneybridge and Greenacres within 6 miles of Crook Moss, which are more than adequate to deal with local families. MoP stated that the applicants for Crook Moss were not local families.
MoP reports that generators are running on the site until late at night – not yet reported to Environment Services. Cllr Robertson says that Environmental Services have not received any noise complaints – residents must report these to PKC hotline at once.
Mop asked the question “where was grey water and surface from roofs etc. currently going” and also where was the waste from current port-a-loos being processed.
Cllr Cuthbert suggests that the issue of possible contamination on the land (since it was previously used as a dump) be raised with Environment Services in order that they might rule the land is not suitable for habitation.
This CC will write to PKC again to clarify all these issues. Meanwhile the CC encourages everyone to write to PKC and their MSP with any comments.
Core Path and Rights of Way Signposting – Cllr. Barnacle reports that there will be an initiative in September to sign any core paths not already signed. MoP asks whether these signs can be erected on private land – Cllr Robertson suggests that there will be consultation with landowners in that case – MoP says that in some cases there hasn’t even been contact with the landowners about the paths being defined – Cllr. Barnacle agrees to look into this.
Dates of 2012/13 Meetings Now Defined:
7th August 2012 – Carnbo, 4th September 2012 – Fossoway, 2nd October 2012 – Blairingone
6th November 2012 – Powmill, 4th December 2012 – Fossoway, 8th January 2013 – Blairingone
5th February 2013 – Fossoway, 5th March 2013 – Blairingone, 2nd April 2013 – Carnbo
7th May 2013 – Fossoway (AGM), 4th June 2013 – Powmill.
7. Community Council Business: Angus attended the Kinross-shire Fund Meeting on 30th May, where purchase of laptops was discussed.
Sandy and Kevin went to the meeting of the Convention of Perth and Kinross Community Councils. The organisation continues to struggle for membership and office bearers. Fossoway CC continues to believe the organisation should be wound up but will assess the position when current membership is known.
At the T-i-t-P Liaison Meeting: Usual time for fireworks, curfews on noise will be imposed and sound level will be adjusted if needed; Local phone number (898091) will be used for complaints this year. MoP asks whether the pipeline across the site will restrict the future of site - although its location is currently restricting how some areas are used, there is a licence for at least another two years.
Sandy attended Planning User’s Forum: Section 75 agreements will in future be made public; Landscape plans must be included at start of application rather than being supplied later; Gypsy and Renewable Energy sites will be discussed in future meetings of this forum.
Sheila and Angus need to be “properly” co-opted as CC members as they were on holiday when normal elections were held.
8. PKC Business, Councillor’s Reports:
Cllr Barnacle is pursuing issue of resident’s only access to Drum. Four applications have been made for “green” roads – more friendly to cyclists; Carnbo Post Box replacement is on-going; Passing places on road near Blairingone to be chased; Rural Scotland AGM attended and this CC should consider joining this organisation as it could be very useful; Cold callers seem to be increasing, can Cold Caller ban be implemented as a part of Neighbourhood Watch? – Cllr Robertson says that anyone receiving a cold caller who won’t go away or is aggressive should call Police at once.
Cllr Robertson: there is a proposal to make Planning Applications pay for themselves, which might quadruple initial costs, and remove free re-applications.
9. Planning Applications:
12/00807/FLL: Partial change of use of chalet development to mixed use development comprising 13 dwelling houses and a pre-school nursery with associated landscaping and infrastructure, Land 100 Metres West of Braehead Farm, Rumbling Bridge – CC suggest rejection on grounds of application would allow further development outwith village boundary and also five chalets to 13 houses is significant change. Note that the original application was under Clacks, not PKC.
Applications approved by Perth and Kinross Council
11/00325/FLL. Erection of 5 dwellinghouses, Pitcarnie, Carnbo, Kinross, KY13 oNX
The Community Council recommended refusal.
Applications rejected by Perth and Kinross Council
12/00487/FLL. Erection of a dwellinghouse and associated office studio, Powmill Cottage, Rumbling Bridge, Kinross, KY13 0QG.
The Community Council recommended refusal.
Snowie Site in Blairingone: Currently running bio-mass site with permission for agricultural use, however a large stockpile of building waste timber, which could be chemically contaminated, is forming on the site. If this timber was to be mixed with forestry timber then chipping could release contaminants into atmosphere. An application for change of use to industrial processing has been submitted, but this was rejected due to incomplete data, and is still outstanding – how long will this continue? MoP suggests that in fact the building waste is currently just being stored and is not actually being processed yet. A further concern is that a change to an industrial use would then be a small step away from the site becoming a Combined Heat and Power installation. Additionally, the plant’s chipping machinery has been heard running both early in the morning and at 22:15 – this has been raised with PKC Environmental Services who have been to the site.
10. General Correspondence: All outgoing and incoming correspondence was available for viewing.
11. A.O.C.B:
Millennium Walk – Countryside Ranger had contacted Sandy with regard to the notice board at Harelaw entrance – Agreed removal. Also the picnic table at the bridge end of the gorge – Agreed retaining it and having it refurbished.
Devon Lade – The CC thanks the Scouts for clearing part of the river.
There being no other business the meeting closed at 9:25pm.
Next Meeting: Carnbo Hall
Tuesday 7th August 2012
7.30pm
All Welcome!
Draft Agenda
• Welcome and Apologies
• Declarations of Interest
• Minutes of Last Meeting
• Matters Arising
• Community Council Business
• Councillors’ Reports
• Planning Applications
• Correspondence
• AOCB
